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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.15 11:35:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 15/11/2006 11:40:01
Originally by: Rodj Blake As I believe I have previously said, I will hold Karin Midular and the corrupt leadership of the Republic personally responsible for any criminal activities carried out by Republic Fleet personnel within the borders of the Empire.
I do not usually answer to Amarrians in this kind of matters, but I'll make the exception here.
If the person behind this is the traitor Muritor, as I am sure everyone with half a brain suspects, he is not Republic Fleet personnel. I have it from a very reliable source that the Fleet would very much like him back, and are in no way co-operating with his terrorist acts and efforts to encite a war.
It is sad to see how the Amarr use this as an excuse for hostilities with the Republic authorities. It is an outrage that former loyal soldiers of the Republic are giving the Amarr their excuses, but hardly surprising that they take it; anyone with half a brain also knows they must have been looking for an excuse to launch an invasion since the start of the Rebellion.
One can only hope the other nations in space do not fall for such nonsense as demostrated by pilot Blake of PIE Inc above. In any case: Amarr, do not seek to start a war. Next time, the Rebellion will be finished.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.15 12:12:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 15/11/2006 12:12:36
Originally by: Rodj Blake It may well be that they're not co-operating with Muritor (and I doubt that this is the case, considering that you have the likes of Shakor in your government), but have they been actively hunting him?
Pilot Blake, you must know that if I was aware of the operations of the Fleet on this kind of level, I could not comment on them in public. I have said all I can say.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.20 09:41:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 20/11/2006 09:43:15
Originally by: Rodj Blake I can confirm that the terrorists all belonged to The Defiants.
You can confirm? And the audience here is just supposed to take your word for it?
Not that I doubt the possibility, but with your wish to interpret the attacks as former Fleet doings and to use that as excuse for hostilities with the Republic, you will excuse me if I do not consider you the most reliable source ever.
If the Defiants indeed are behind this, why are they not claiming responsibility? Traitor or not, secrecy and deception are not Muritor's way, or the way of any of those fighters I can think would be flying with him.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.20 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 20/11/2006 11:33:25 If they are, as you claim, taking warships to attack civilian targets on a sovereign territory of a nation in peace with us, it would hardly be in my interest to complain if they get themselves killed in the process.
The audience have to decide for themselves if they believe an Amarr obviously building up an excuse for war with the Republic, or not. Personally, I'll wait for further information before drawing conclusions.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.20 22:27:00 -
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Don't you talk to me about honor, slaver. I believe what I have from reliable sources.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.20 23:32:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 20/11/2006 23:35:06 Yes, it does matter.
What good will it do to free our brothers and sisters, if at the same time you give the slavers an excuse to destroy the home they would return to? Do you want our kin to return to Matar to see the Imperial Navy on orbit?
Continue your ****ed terrorism, traitors, but do not involve us. We want none of this madness.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.21 00:17:00 -
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Well, if you do not need an excuse, what's held you back this far?
Scared, maybe?
You should be.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.21 00:29:00 -
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Oh, forgive my misunderstanding, I was under a different impression of 1st Praetorian Guard's policies.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2006.11.21 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Chishan Awaken sister, they are already upon our homes. They already poison our people, and warp their wills. Their industrials already carry away entire communities, to die in chains. Awaken sister, they are at your door.
Oh for gods' sake, pilot, don't give me that cheap rhetoric again, I've heard it all before. I do not need awakenings; I have been in this line of work for years now and I do know what the situation is, probably better than you. Yes, they are at the door, yes, they have always been there - and you and the likes of Muritor are working to let them in.
Originally by: Darth Revanant You say it was stolen, yet the Republic authorities do nothing to punish the 'theives' or reclaim their stolen property.
Here you are mistaken, which is understandable, but considering your nationality and world view, I am sure you are willing to forgive the Republic authorities that they do not see it necessary to inform you about all their doings.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.21 13:29:00 -
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Thrace, you of all people know the answer to those questions is "yes, I have".
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.21 21:22:00 -
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I never said it was untrue, in fact I said anyone with half a brain suspects the most likely persons. I just said wait for reliable confirmation before jumping into conclusions.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.22 10:12:00 -
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Forgive me if my words offended.
I know the realities, believe me, I do. Your kind want to paint all loyalists as heartless and distant, but that is not the real picture; most of us have hearts that break just as yours do and we share the same burning desire to Do Something.
To give you a bit of counter-rhetoric: a clever fighter does not start hostilities with a fighting alliance with several times the power of his own, even when he sees a tempting target of opportunity he well can take down. Instead, he finds another route around their camps for now, and in peace recruits allies, gathers ships, and makes plans.
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.11.23 22:03:00 -
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Edited by: Elsebeth Rhiannon on 23/11/2006 22:10:13 The Republic was made to be a safe haven for those out of the shadows, and a stepping stone to a brighter future. While I appreciate the sense of urgency that is grabbing us all now, to say that those of us who remain loyal are "looking on and doing nothing" is wrong (or, maybe, in the case of someone who should know better either self-deception or a lie).
Cz has quoted your own words back to you, Captain; that you will start no war, that your actions are measured, and have a cause and a goal. She has asked for clarification, asked if you still hold true to that, and all you have to give us is this stale separatist propaganda, this repeating of empty insults?
Have we not seen enough of this during the years? Are you crazy enough to throw away what little unification there has been in the most recent history by plunging us back to those arguments? Is it a civil war you intend to cause, if it is not a war?
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Elsebeth Rhiannon
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Posted - 2006.12.03 19:08:00 -
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There are reasons other than the concern for Amarr civilians for not wanting a war.
Thrace says we are not ready, and can never be. He takes that as a signal to start a war, figuring offense is easier than defense. However, this is usually not true. So, if we are not even ready for defense, how could we be ready for a war?
I think the mistake is extrapolating from pilot wars and figuring that since we can hold our own pretty well in them the offensive war will be easy too. However, when the fleets mobilize and war is taken planetside, things will be very, very different.
If we are not ready now, and will never be, we have no hope. If you believe that, indeed throwing all you have to the enemy now is the only noble choice.
I still have hope, though. So do my leaders.
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